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Was there another American Party? It appears that there was one around the time of the American Civil War and another in the 20th century, but I haven't been able to find any good reference of a 18th century party by that name. I suppose party in this article might not mean political partyMulad 03:53, 14 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Most likely it was party in the informal sense of "faction"; each colonial legislature had groups for and against independence, Middleton would have been in the "for" group. Deserves more in-depth investigation though; a specialized work on colonial Carolina would likely have a lot to say about all this. Stan 14:16, 15 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Link to Project Gutenberg[edit]

I've removed the gutenberg author template from this page, as there is no evidence that the author linked to is the same Arthur Middleton. The Arthur Middleton mentioned at PG is the author of a short text in the form of a journal, titled The Forgotten Threshold. It appears to be from too late a date to be by this writer. (ie it appears to mention the ship Titanic) I have searched through multiple library catalogs and have not been able to find a record for this item. Andrew Sly 06:28, 11 October 2005 (UTC)


I have added a piece about the relationship between Arthur Middleton Baldur von Schirach, the leader of the Hitler YouthGovernor ("Gauleiter" or "Reichsstatthalter") of the Reichsgau Vienna who was convicted of "crimes against humanity" at the Nuremberg Trials, through Baldur Von Schirach's mother Emma Middleton Lynah Tillou (1872 - 1944). Some of the details can be seen on the Wikipedia page but more information on the relationship and proof of the descent can be provided. I think that this is more relevant than his relationship by cousins twice removed to a Confederate General! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.104.173.66 (talk) 04:10, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I dont see any relevance at all of this connection to Gauleiter Schirach who, while he grew up speaking English, had no other cultural ties to the USA and so no idea of the Declaration of Independence. /s/ lil schweinhundt jr 76.250.200.144 (talk) 08:33, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Middleton Place[edit]

I suppose this place is fairly famous as a location, esp its gardens; but it is NOT representative at all of the Middleton usual planations which instead of this small acreage of about 400 acres, were usually 2,000-10,000 acres in size and included about 12-13 different plantations. These were spread out among this larger family and so not at all, related to Arthur the Signer except esp Otranto originally belonging to his ancestors Arthur deceased - 1685 and passed then to Izard family and was further related then, to Arthur's wife Mary Izard (also qv Crowfield, Otranto, Oak, etc)

see : "Otranto" land grant to Edward & Arthur Middleton 1678 - 1,780 acres

     1 Mary ( Smyth) Middleton b: ab 1655 d: 26 JUL 1700
       + Arthur Middleton d: 1685 ancestor of Arthur Middleton d: 1787 "signer"
       + Ralph Izard b: ab 1650 d: 24 JAN 1709/10
        2 Walter Izard b: 15 MAY 1692 d: 17 FEB 1749/50
           + Mary Turgis
           3 Walter Izard b: 13 MAR 1713/14 d: 1759
             + Elizabeth Gibbes b: 1723
               4 Mary Izard b: 31 JUL 1747 d: ab JUL 1814
                 + Arthur Middleton b: 26 JUN 1742 d: 1 JAN 1787

/s/ say si boan, bon chance 76.250.200.144 (talk) 08:43, 22 May 2008 (UTC)

Prisoner of War[edit]

The article states that he was "exchanged" and then returned to S.C. This is not correct. There was no exchange. He, along with other prisoners of war including two other signers of the Declaration of Independence, were rescued and smuggled out of Florida by a merchant named Francisco Xavier Sanchez who at great risk to his life rescued these men and then transported them on one of his ships back to S.C. Sanchez was recently recognized for this act by being officially designated by the Daughter's of the American Revolution as a Revolutionary War patriot. Since this is relatively new information it has not yet been included in any published book though it is mentioned on the websites of some newspapers and is in D.A.R. documents that have not yet been widely distributed. As soon as a source that Wiki would consider acceptable becomes available I will update this article accordingly. I personally think that more should be included in this article about his having been a P.O.W. and the rescue itself. It adds a significant dimension to the story of a historical person even if the article never mentions the name of the person responsible for his return. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.144.213.97 (talk) 20:52, 24 June 2015 (UTC)